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Wednesday, April 6, 2011

A QUEST BEYOND LIMITS


 Quest Beyond Limits - A Mountaineering and Filming Expedition for Peace, Green Peace, and Gender Equality
Unnamed/Unclimbed Peak, 6300m, Karakorum-Chafchingul area of Shimshal, June/July 2011

This expedition is another attempt to be the first to climb an unnamed & unclimbed peak in the Karakorum – Chafchingol area of Shimshal. The focus of this mountaineering and filming expedition is on 20 year old Pakistani female mountaineer Samina Baig who will be ascending an unnamed, unclimbed peak of approximately 6300m in height.  No Pakistani woman except her has ever been to this height before thus breaking the rules of a country where not only sports but many fields of society are thought to be dominated by men.  Samina Baig, who in 2010 climbed the unclimbed peak, Chaskin Sar, and became the youngest woman mountaineer of Pakistan, At the age of just 19, this young Shimshali girl was the first Pakistani woman to summit a virgin and also unexplored peak of 6400m.  Originally called Chashkin Sar , the peak is now named Samina Peak after her.  Other team members will include Mr.Mirza Ali, project leader, team leader, and founding president of PYO, Mr. Christoph Nettekoven, and Mr. Jens Franke.

Baig hopes to inspire all women of Pakistan and around the world to be active participants in all fields of society. She says, “It is my intention to motivate more women to participate as this will give a message of confidence to females everywhere that if a young woman can climb a mountain, she can do anything”.  The expedition is to highlight gender equality and welcome all women in the extreme sports in Pakistan. Further, being part of Pakistan Youth Outreach, she wants to encourage more women of Pakistan to become involved in extreme sports and to represent
Pakistan and its adventure potential areas, and also to support and encourage youth to explore Pakistan and its amazing mountains. The project will also bring to the world the unique and rich culture of Shimshal, the most remote frontier village of Pakistan.
The desire to explore and climb in new places and to climb virgin peaks is ever growing.  PYO will focus on climbing a magnificent and wonderful peak that is unnamed and unclimbed in the Karakorum – Chafchingol area of Shimshal.  The peak is near the famous Sonia Peak, 6400m.  After the climb, the team will go over the famous Chafchingol Pass, 5150m.  
The documentary of the expedition will be aired on interested TV channels.  The expedition seeks to educate youth about mountain sports and to bring awareness and promotion of women’s adventure and to give other women encouragement to conquer the many mountains of Pakistan.
The second goal of the expedition is to send a positive image to the world that the country is peace loving and everyone is welcome to explore Pakistan.  It is also our aim to expose Pakistan adventure potential areas; to show the world that Pakistan is rich culturally, historically, and that its mountains are unmatched in the world in the beautiful and peaceful Karakorum, Hindu Kush and Himalaya.  These huge mountain ranges are heaven for trekkers, photographers, culture observers, historians, researchers, film makers, and mountain and nature lovers. The variety of adventure has been experienced by many world class adventure lovers, rekkers, and culture tour makers.  It is our hope to also give exposure to Pakistan and its wonderful and beautiful mountains, valleys, glaciers, and to also encourage youth adventure and the top most objective of the promotion of women’s adventure.
The expedition will also raise awareness about green peace, wild life, and global warming and its impact on glaciers, mountains, and rural areas as well as on wild life.  There will be a strong protest about global warming and green peace and conservation of wild life.
This expedition is financed through a combination of Pakistan Youth Outreach donations and personal funds.  If anyone would like to sponsor or donate to the expedition as well as our overall program and future projects, we would greatly appreciate the gesture! This new project of Pakistan Youth Outreach is named “A Quest Beyond Limits, Part IV” and the documentary will be of the same title.
The expedition is scheduled to take place 16 June - 7 July 2011.
left to right first row, Mirza Ali, Project Leader, Samina Baig, Christof,Arshad karim, Jens Franke


Friday, February 11, 2011

A Quest Beyond Limits part III


A Quest Beyond Limits - Part III - The First Pakistani Female Mountaineer Takes on Another Unclimbed Peak in Winter
Malika Parbat, 5290m, Hazara Division, February 2011
This winter expedition will be an attempt to be the first to climb Malika Parabat, the “Queen of Mountains”. Samina Baig, who recently climbed the unclimbed peak, Chaskin Sar, and became the youngest woman mountaineer of Pakistan, will be among the team members.  The team will also be made up of Mr. Mirza Ali, team leader and founding president of PYO, Mr. Arshad Karim, and Mr. Arif Baig.

The team will climb Malika Parabat, a 5290m peak, in the Mansehra District which is found in the Hazara Division of Pakistan.  The peak is the highest in the Kaghan Valley.  This peak has never been climbed according to the locals and also there is no ascent record with the Alpine Club of Pakistan.  
During the expedition, if there is time, the team will also climb Seran One, 5200m and also unclimbed.
The expedition will start from Naran, a frontier village in the Naran Valley.
A documentary of the expedition is expected for those who would be interested in airing it. The expedition seeks to educate youth about mountain sports and to bring awareness and promotion of women’s adventure and to give other women encouragement to conquer the many mountains of Pakistan.  The second goal of the expedition is to send a positive image to the world that the country is peace loving and everyone is welcome to explore Pakistan.  It is also our aim to expose Pakistan adventure potential areas; to show the world that Pakistan is rich culturally, historically, and that its mountains are unmatched in the world in the

Extreme Adventure, Samina Baig Expedition to Chashkin Sar, Part IV

Thursday, January 13, 2011

Samina Baig,Account of first Pakistani women’s winter climbing expedition

 Pakistan Youth Outreach Second Climbing Expedition in winter to
Samina Baig at practice Session
Mingligh sar 6050m was indeed amazing, Samina Baig being the first woman from Pakistan to go on a winter attempt in the Karakorum was a great mile stone in Pakistani women’s adventure history.Samina Baig who had topped Chashkin Sar Peak in August-Septermber 2010.This expedition was dedicated to all those who have been affected by the floods in Pakistan this year The team along with Samina set High Camp at nearly 5525m which was new for any girl from Pakistan in winter and pushed for the summit the next day. Due to extreme cold and insufficient clothing for Samina (due to financial constraints) mainly down jacket and pants, the team decided to return approximately 150m short of the summit. Samina reached the height of approximately 5900m. Later the weather turned to hell and we called off the
Samina Baig First Pakistani woman on Winter Expedition. Yausaf khan and Samina Baig at High camp, huge frost can be seen on sleeping bag
Expedition however the PYO first basic mountaineering training camp for young school boys and girls was very successful.
Since Karakorum has different weather conditions, the winter arrives late November in the high mountains of Karakorum, according to the calendar year it has been said that December climbing expeditions are not a full calendar year expedition. However a few years back the  Alpine club of Pakistan organized a climbing expedition to Peer Peak in the Karakorum which was named “Winter Expedition”. Similarly there was another expedition in November by locals which was also named Winter Expedition. Looking at the extreme weather situation in the high mountains, December and January is normally considered winter in the Karakorum, Pamir area hence the expedition is also Winter Expedition.
The expedition kicked off on the 8th of December 2010 after three days acclimatization in Shimshal Valley. We hired 12 porters, two cooks and Mr
Mirza Ali making water at high camp
Yausaf Khan, former army climber as our expedition advisor. The first day was spent at Korband. During the winter days are short and most streams at different summer camp sites get frozen therefore the first night spent at Korband  was pretty chilly and there was a lot of frost in the tents. After a steep climb of Ghar Sar the next day the team managed to reach Uch Forzeen in 9 hours, the chill was great though the day was sunny. Uch Forzeen provided us with good shelter for cooking in the hut but sleeping in the tent was pretty hard, at midnight I found my sleeping bag frosty and frozen half due to my breathing but a great adventure all the same! Uch Forzeen to Arbon Purian was a nice journey, the frozen slopes of Arbon Purian were nice for practice and play adventure in the cold climate.
Samina Baig First Pakistani Woman on Winter Expedition in the Karakorum. A view from High camp
It was longer in the winter from Arbob Purian to Shujrave where we set our base camp, the cold was great, it took us four days to reach Shujrave which is normally three days walking in summer. After two days of acclimatization and practice in Shujrave, Samina and Jennifer Rawlings (guest climber  from Atlanta, Georgia, US) made it to the pass, the previous day, unfortunately Jennifer Rawlins got sick. Jennifer came to take part in this historical adventure and she believed it was a wonderful experience but truly cold! We marched up to high camp, Samina, Yausaf and Mr Tafat Shah, PYO Trainer, also Mr Yahya Baig and myself Mirza Ali, Expedition leader and Wazir Baig were the climbers in the team.
Samina Baig first Pakistani woman on winter expedition in the karakorum. Samina Baig photograph just 150m short from the summit. photo taken at approximately 5900m. 
The high camp was settled at approximately 5520m, the night was terribly cold and Yahya and Wazir got sick in the night, however Samina was the first woman from Pakistan to experience  such extreme and freezing temperatures at High Camp. The sleeping bag was icy in the morning, the weather was very pleasant but again very cold. Next morning we started our summit push at 8am, the stones were frozen and frosty, the chill factor was high but the sun did come out to favor us at the beginning. After three hours walk we reached below the glacier, changed our climbing shoes and dressed up for the next stage of the expedition. The snow was drifting and the upper layers were pretty frozen but it was complete sugar type beneath the upper layer. The climb was pretty tough going from the beginning, the layers start breaking and it was hard for all of us. Wazir was ill and returned half way, we climbed for another two hours when the wind and weather became very cold. Samina had a down jacket with no hood and this was not suitable protection for the extreme cold weather, the pants were not even down so that made it difficult to continue to the summit. We reached approximately 5900m, just 150m short of the summit, the time was running out so we decided to return since it was a step forward in progress and we naturally wanted to return home safely!
samina baig and Yausaf Khan looking at the summit 150m away!
During the climb I noticed my video camera battery got dislodgedi was unable to make more video of the climb and i was not adapted with still setting of  ISO,which also make  bad pictures in the bright light, later jennifer helped me  to set ISO setting on the way back to base camp.
The descent was arduous, the long ridge descent was tiring but we finally made to the High Camp. The wind was extremely strong and was to blow our tents off from the ridge, after preparing tea Samina and Yausaf left straight for Base Camp. We packed our belongings and tents to follow. Jennifer and Gul were down at the pass, we had planned to fix another high camp at Quz Sar after a successful attempt of Mingligh however it was not really achievable since other members were tired. We met them down in the evening it was then decided to have some rest and then move back to Quz Sar approximately 5900m and climbed an unnamed peak.
We reached base camp as the dusk was all around, Imran our “cook” welcomed us and served the meal. The night was cold and chills were looming, in the morning it was very cloudy and started snowing. We consulted Yausaf and Tafat the experienced climbers who then decided to call off the expedition, hence all packed, we left for Shimshal.
This expedition was an initiative for the youth and women of Pakistan to enter into extreme sports such as mountaineering, it was a myth breaking expedition for Pakistani women and youths whatever the outcome. Reaching the summit is the exception in the mountains; most renowned mountaineers find that the “fail summit ratio” is higher than success. When I took the decision to return 150m short of the summit, the Sir Edmund Hillary quote was the basis that he used for  Everest mostly to avoid any chance of accidents. It was the right decision to go home safely since mountains never go away!
kids at training spot ,preparing for the training at Malangutti glacier
Right after the expedition, Pakistan Youth Outreach conducted a Basic Mountaineering School for boys and girls in Shimshal at Malangutti Glacier, the participants were from different schools. Among the participants there were Bibi Numa (10th Grade), Shumaila Biag (10th Grade), Mudasir Pannah (9th Grade) , Nargis Murtaza (9th Grade), Shah Dualat (5th Grade) ,Afsana Tafat (6th Grade), Muhammad Habib (4th Grade), Arshad Karim and Samina Baig.
The training was overseen by Mr Yausaf Khan former Pakistan Army climber and Mr Tafat Shah the best technical and experienced mountaineer, myself as PYO Founding President also supervised the training. Jennifer Rawlins  Youth Outreaches main supporter was also on the training. The kids enjoyed the outdoor and the basics of mountaineering and wanted similar training for them in the future. The PYO’s objective is to encourage youth and women’s outdoor and adventure activities and spread this across Pakistan and world  to bring a peaceful and healthy environment for youths and also encourage nature studies and research work on high mountain settlements and glaciers as well as study tours as part of recreation for fresh mind for studies!
The expedition was organized with help of individual donations, apart from individuals the Danish Embassy also donated for the expedition. The Danish support is to convey a different and positive side of Pakistan than you would normally see in the media and thereby to support development in Gilgit-Baltistan

PYO training Session,the training conducted at Malanguti Glacier, the chief Trainer of PYO,Mr. Yausaf Khan Former Pakistan Army Climber & PYO Trainer Tafat Shah top Experienced and technical mountaineer, Mr Mirza Ali, PYO founding president and trainer. Trained the kids from different schools Basic mountaineering

We are very grateful to the Danish Embassy, Eloise Fox Peyman for
donations. We thank Jennifer Rawlins “for coming to Pakistan  in the extreme weather condition and becoming part of the team and giving a positive image to other women around the world showing that Pakistan is safe and secure as well as welcoming every folk to enjoy a Karakorum adventure”. We also thank Carol Anne Grayson for her support and article and hope to share much more in the near future about our projects. We also appreciate those individuals who sent their personal donations! We are here just because of you people and your support and hope to have your support in the future as well to make PYO objectives possible! Thank you ALL! Interested people can join us on our future trainings on mixed or purely female expeditions to virgin and other mountains in the Karakorum!

Sunday, November 28, 2010

Aiming high with the first pakistani women’s winter climbing expedition

Carol Grayson

Following on from the recent success of the Pakistani women’s cricket team winning gold in theAsia Games2010, Mirza Ali hopes to reach new heights, partnering with his younger sister Samina Baig, to embark on the First Pakistani Women’s Winter Climbing Expedition.
It is easy to be enthused by Mirza, an experienced climber of several years, as he counts down the days to the start of their adventure in the Karakorum, planning the route and buying food supplies for the trip. Mirza delights in the fact that a friend has donated a pair of men’s boots for Samina to use on her climb; unfortunately funding does not come easy and Mirza spends a lot of his time knocking on doors for sponsorship money.
‘Mirza is passionate about climbing and aims to be the first Pakistani to climb all 14 of the 8000 metre peaks in the world, with the intention of becoming an adventure ambassador for Pakistan’
Mirza is student and studying Tourism and Management. Born in the village of Shimshal in the Hunza region, he is the youngest mountaineer in Pakistan to make a climb of 6050m. Mingligh Sar was the first summit he conquered. Mirza is passionate about climbing and aims to be the first Pakistani to climb all 14 of the 8000 metre peaks in the world, with the intention of becoming an adventure ambassador for Pakistan. He cites Nazir Sabir, the first Pakistani to reach the summit of Mount Everest, as his idol. He hopes to use his love of adventure travel to promote peace and understanding with both national and international communities.
Mirza already has great achievements under his belt. He developed and set up a joint venture project with Pakistan Youth Outreach and the Satwa Gunar Project. The idea was to climb with a team of locals, including a film maker and photographer, to make a documentary focusing on a high school student, Mirza’s sister Samina, who became the first Pakistani woman mountaineer to summit an unclimbed 6400m peak. This was Samina’s first expedition and ascent and an amazing achievement for all concerned. The mountain she climbed, Chashksin Sar, has now been renamed Samina Peak in her honour.
It is my intention to motivate more women to participate as this will give a message of confidence to females everywhere that if a young woman can climb a mountain, she can do anything”
Describing her experience for ExplorerswebSamina said, “Shimshali mountaineering is sort of inherited. Our ancestors built Shimshal beneath a glacier, and our community survived this harsh environment using mountaineering skills. Our grandparents and great-grandparents climbed with homemade ropes, wooden stakes and animal horns. Modern mountaineering only reached Shimshal in the 1980s, but Shimshali men soon made their mark. Four of the seven Pakistanis who have summited K2 are from my village”
Brother and sister are both Ishmaili Muslims, a sect that broke away from the Shiites in the 8th century. Mirzir told me that men and women are deemed to have equal status in Ishmaili societies and the women are used to working at high altitude, gathering dry juniper and grazing yaks. They both hope that their activities will help encourage more young people of both sexes in Pakistan to become involved in adventure travel and lead by example. Rubab Raza became a role model for women in 2004 by becoming the first female to represent Pakistan in an Olympic swimming event aged only 13.
However, Khadija Ranja argues that it has not always been easy for female athletes to gain acceptance in Pakistan.She states, “we have been born with a mindset and a family setting that dictates to us that a woman’s place is in her home, taking care of her husband and children, and not in a field, wielding a hockey stick or bat. The fact that some women break out of such clichéd and commonplace roles make them unacceptable in our society. Women’s sports are looked down on in general in our society, and that is truly a very sad predicament, because in reality the progress of sports in a country is a reflection of its political stability.”
“Women’s sports are looked down on in general in our society, and that is truly a very sad predicament, because in reality the progress of sports in a country is a reflection of its political stability”
Mirza’s work is in line with the United Nations Millenium Development Goals for women and youth, which include gender equality and promoting education. Pakistan is a signatory supporting this agenda. Mirza is very proud of his sister’s achievements and said “it is my intention to motivate more women to participate as this will give a message of confidence to females everywhere that if a young woman can climb a mountain, she can do anything”. Mirza, along with Pakistan Youth Outreach, has devised a long-term programme which will incorporate the following, “to educate youth at grassroots level about mountain adventure, trekking adventure, and wilderness which will cover environmental education and the effects of global warming, the focus will be on schools, college and university.”
The objectives of the organisation and how this is to be achieved can be found on the link here. Mirza has a growing number of supporters across the globe, loves meeting people from different cultures and encourages people to visit Pakistan to admire and experience the beauty of the landscape. On Sunday he wrote “the company of good people is like a perfume shop, whether you have bought perfume or not, you will receive a lot of good perfume, my friends are like the shop of perfume.”
Samina has already set out to acclimatize. The expedition starts officially on the December 1 to the end of the month. The enthusiastic adventurer is motivated by her faith in Allah and inspired by the purity of her environment; her ultimate goal is to one day scale K2. Jennifer Rawlins from the United States will be joining Samina on this expedition, and led by Mirza they plan to climb a 5850m peak named Qusar as well as an unnamed peak. Anyone wishing to support the expedition with a donation can log on to Pakistan Youth Outreach here.
the expedition was organized with help of individual donations, apart from individuals the Danish Embassy also donated for the expedition. The Danish support is to convey a different and positive side of Pakistan than you would normally see in the media and thereby to support development in Gilgit-Baltista (Mirza)
Words: Carol Grayson. Carol is a UK independent researcher/campaigner in global health/human rights. To read the rest of the rest of Carol blogs for Ctrl.Alt.Shift, please click here.
Photos: Mirza Ali

Sunday, November 21, 2010

First Pakistani Women Winter Expedition Karakorum December 2010,

This Expedition has been dedicated to Flood Effectees of Pakistan.

After a successful joint venture of Pakistan Youth Outreach (PYO) and Satwa Guna to climb the 6400m, unclimbed peak, Chashkin Sar in the Shimshal, Maidur Village of the Karakorum, PYO is now planning another historical adventure in the extreme winter.  This winter expedition will be the first Pakistani woman’s winter expedition in Pakistan women adventure history.  Samina Baig, who recently climbed the unclimbed peak, Chaskin Sar, and became the youngest woman mountaineer of Pakistan, will be the woman mountaineer from Pakistan.  The other female member of the expedition will be Jennifer Rawlins, one of the top supporters of Pakistan Youth Outreach.  Ms. Rawlins is from Atlanta, Georgia, USA.   

Jennifer Rawlins
Also on the team will be Mr. Mirza Ali, team leader and founding president of PYO, Mr,Yausaf Khan is the technical ,climber &advisor.  Mr. Yausaf Khan is a veteran Pakistani mountaineer and former Army climber. He was awareded Tamghai –e-basalt one of the top military award,for his outstanding performance in the field of Mountaineering for Pakistan army, he climbed several 8000r,represented Pakistanin on different Joint Expeditions.Mr. Ali Mussa, Young,enegitic mountaineer is also part of the Expedition, he climbed several 8000r,including k2,two times up to bottleneck.
The team will climb Mingligh Sar, a 6050m peak, in the Shimshal Pamir of Pakistan, which has never been climbed before in winter.  The peak will be attempted via the west ridge, climbed for the first time by Mr. Mirza Ali, and named Thomas Johnese Leedert Route. The route is approximately 38 to 42 degrees and the technical level is high and requires a full compliment of gear.  The peak has a traditional route also which is the south ridge.  This peak
Yausaf Khan
is famous among people for its nice ascent and summit views including a nice.
view of the Karakorum, the second highest mountain, the savage mountain K2 and much more!
 During the expedition, for acclimatization, the team will also climb two 5000m peaks: Quz Sar, approximately 5850m and an unnamed and unclimbed peak of approximately 5700m.  The locations of the peaks are close to each other at distance of three to five km.  All three mountains are at Shimshal Pamir, ”Shimshal Pass”.

Ali Mussa
The expedition will start from Shimshal Valley, a frontier village in Pakistan, situated in the extreme Karakorum. It segregates the Pak-China border and dividing point of Central Asia. Shimshal Village is well known for its reputed high passes, rich culture, and hospitality.  The village is situated at 3300m above sea level.  The temperature drops to -20 C in winter. Having this extreme weather in the village, one can imagine the extreme conditions and cold that would be on the mountains in the massive Karakorum!
The expedition base camp will be established at Shujrave around 4486 m.  From Shujrave, these mountains will be attempted.  The expected temperature will be approximately -30 C to -40 C.  

Mingligh Sar 6050m
A documentary of the expedition will be made for a leading TV channel and those who would be interested in airing it. The expedition seeks to educate youth about mountain sports and to bring  awareness of and promotion of women’s adventure.  The second theme of the expedition is to send a positive image to the world that the country is peace loving and everyone is welcome to explore Pakistan.  It is also our aim to expose Pakistan adventure potential areas; to show the world that Pakistan is rich culturally, historically, and that its mountains are unmatched in the world in the beautiful and peaceful Karakorum, Hindukush and Himalaya. These huge mountain ranges are heaven for trekkers, photographers, culture observers, historians, researchers, film makers, and mountain and nature lovers. The adventure potential area of the Pakistan Karakorum is the most beautiful and soul attracting.  It is one of the best tourist attraction points in the world. The roughness, beauty and fierce towering mountains are awe inspiring for all walks of life and interest.  The variety of adventure has been experienced by many world class adventure lovers, trekkers, and culture tour makers.  It is our hope to also give exposure to Pakistan and its wonderful and beautiful mountains, valleys, glaciers, and to also encourage youth adventure and the top most objective of the promotion of women’s adventure.
Mirza Ali

the Variety of adventure  has been experienced by many world class adventure lovers, trekkers, and culture tour makers.  It is our hope to also give exposure to Pakistan and its wonderful and beautiful mountains, valleys, glaciers, and to also encourage youth adventure and the top most objective of the promotion of women’s adventure.
http//www.pakyouthoutreach.com




Tuesday, October 19, 2010

As Guests invited in Live TV show (GEO PAKISTAN) on Geo TV

“ME  and Samina have been Invited as Guests in a famous Morning show of Geo TV the largest TV channel in Pakistan (Geo Pakistan) on Saturday October 16th at 11:00am Pakistan Standard time! leaving for Lahore tomorrow for two days :) wish us luck! its our first Invitation as guests from any Tv channel after Samina first climb as first Pakistani women mountaineer!”

* “Finally Home. The live TV show, i am told was very great and i received hundreds of sms ,messages ,Phone calls an emails, the people particularly Youths are very much excited and load the effort and with Big heart commend the initiative of Pakistan Youth Outreach. Also Satwa Guna project for a nice joint venture to make the first project successful!”

there was several live calls from viewers they appreciate and congratulate samina and felt so proud of her being first Pakistani girl to reach the heights point!
after the live tv show, we met Sohail Sadiq a nice ,humble and cooperative man, who made our meeting possible with Adviser to the prime minister for women development.she assured a meeting in Islamabad on Monday and discuss further things in detail.
after meeting with Adviser to the Prime Mister for women development Sohail guide us to Magic Media and held a nice meeting in a nice environment with the CEO and Executive Director! the Meeting was so nice, i had an appointment with Nikon Pakistan but due to shortage of time, we couldn't make the meeting.
since Nikon had sponsored us equipment on our Project ,therefore i wore Nikon shirt in the Interview a demonstration to thanks to Nikon!and also believe their support in future adventure projects!

People at airport and in the aircraft people those who watched the Live Show,recognized us and congratulate us for the great show and success on the first Expedition that lead first Pakistani Girl to reach the Highest Point! !
people encourage us and believe that we will show more good to the people and country to help women and youths come in adventure sports and bring a good name to the country ,despite all the hurdles,social,cultural,religious and economic!

finally reached home at 4:50 and the journey was nice but tiring but was a great Journey after our Adventure!